{"id":1403,"date":"2018-05-14T11:31:00","date_gmt":"2018-05-14T09:31:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/?p=1403"},"modified":"2020-03-26T14:33:46","modified_gmt":"2020-03-26T13:33:46","slug":"vladimir-dlouhy-wirtschaftskammer","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/cz\/vladimir-dlouhy-wirtschaftskammer\/","title":{"rendered":"Slovo czexit je u n\u00e1s zak\u00e1z\u00e1no"},"content":{"rendered":"

Rozhovor s Vladim\u00edrem Dlouh\u00fdm<\/strong>, prezidentem Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 komory \u010cR<\/p>\n

Ekonom, ministr, poradce, prezident komory, p\u016fsob\u00ed v Evrop\u011b i v z\u00e1mo\u0159\u00ed \u2013 Vladim\u00edr Dlouh\u00fd um\u00ed hodn\u011b, a chce mo\u017en\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b v\u00edce. Po sametov\u00e9 revoluci se jako ministr hospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed v\u00fdznamn\u011b pod\u00edlel na tvorb\u011b nov\u00e9 podoby \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky. A tak\u00e9 dnes pat\u0159\u00ed k t\u011bm, kdo ud\u00e1vaj\u00ed t\u00f3n, a to nejen v ekonomick\u00fdch z\u00e1le\u017eitostech.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Vra\u0165me se o 25 let zp\u00e1tky, do obdob\u00ed ekonomick\u00e9 transformace a kup\u00f3nov\u00e9 privatizace, rozd\u011blen\u00ed \u010ceskoslovenska a ur\u010dit\u00fdch obav z v\u00fdprodeje \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky na Z\u00e1pad. Co to bylo pro v\u00e1s za obdob\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Transformace byla nastartov\u00e1na na zdrav\u00fdch z\u00e1kladech. \u010casto se hovo\u0159\u00ed o tom, \u017ee kup\u00f3nov\u00e1 privatizace m\u011bla b\u00fdt provedena, a\u017e bude hotov\u00fd legislativn\u00ed a pr\u00e1vn\u00ed r\u00e1mec. Teoreticky je to spr\u00e1vn\u011b, prakticky to byl nesmysl. Legislativn\u00ed a regulativn\u00ed r\u00e1mec se formuje l\u00e9ta, nebo sp\u00ed\u0161e desetilet\u00ed, a jak jsme vid\u011bli i b\u011bhem krize finan\u010dn\u00edho sektoru v USA v roce 2008, nikdy nen\u00ed hotov. \u010cesk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost pro\u0161la r\u016fzn\u00fdmi vlnami. Otev\u0159eli jsme cestu zahrani\u010dn\u00edm investor\u016fm. Prvn\u00ed velkou investic\u00ed, do dne\u0161ka pova\u017eovanou za \u00fasp\u011bch, byla investice Volkswagenu do mladoboleslavsk\u00e9 \u0160kodovky. Potom jsme tro\u0161ku p\u0159ibrzdili a \u0159\u00edkali jsme, \u017ee bychom vybudovali i dom\u00e1c\u00ed z\u00e1kladnu vlastn\u00edk\u016f a \u201ekapitalist\u016f\u201c. Potom p\u0159i\u0161lo obdob\u00ed po skon\u010den\u00ed Klausovy vl\u00e1dy v letech 1997-2000, kdy se \u0159\u00edkalo: \u201eNe, \u010desk\u00e1 cesta byla chyba.\u201c P\u0159ibyly investi\u010dn\u00ed pob\u00eddky a nal\u00e1kalo se sem velk\u00e9 mno\u017estv\u00ed zahrani\u010dn\u00edho kapit\u00e1lu. Dnes se zase vzdych\u00e1 nad t\u00edm, \u017ee velk\u00e9 firmy vyv\u00e1d\u011bj\u00ed p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 mnoho zisku mimo \u010ceskou republiku. J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee zahrani\u010dn\u00edho kapit\u00e1lu tady m\u00e1me tak akor\u00e1t. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b bych si p\u0159\u00e1l v\u00edce dom\u00e1c\u00edch firem, ale p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm v oblasti mal\u00fdch a st\u0159edn\u00edch firem za posledn\u00ed 4-5 let vid\u00edm prudk\u00fd n\u00e1r\u016fst \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u00fdch \u010desk\u00fdch firem.<\/p>\n

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\u201ePova\u017eoval bych ho za mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9ho optimistu\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/h5>\n

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\"\"Co byste ozna\u010dil za nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdzvu t\u00e9 doby?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed bylo probojovat vlastn\u00ed koncept privatizace od roku 1990. Potom to rozhodov\u00e1n\u00ed o tis\u00edc\u00edch privatiza\u010dn\u00edch projekt\u016f. To byla jednotliv\u00e1 rozhodnut\u00ed, z nich\u017e n\u011bkter\u00e1 byla dobr\u00e1, n\u011bkter\u00e1 \u0161patn\u00e1. Za ta \u0161patn\u00e1 si pak \u010dlov\u011bk nesl politickou odpov\u011bdnost. Tak to v \u017eivot\u011b je.<\/p>\n

V\u011b\u0159il jste tehdy, \u017ee se \u010desk\u00e1 ekonomika bude vyv\u00edjet tak pozitivn\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Kdyby mi v roce 1990 n\u011bkdo \u0159ekl, \u017ee v roce 2011, kdy jsme nem\u011bli velk\u00fd r\u016fst, \u010cesk\u00e1 republika bude makroekonomicky stabiln\u00ed a \u017ee z\u00e1padn\u00ed Evropa se bude hroutit pod krachem bank a zadlu\u017eenost\u00ed, kdyby mi n\u011bkdo \u0159ekl, \u017ee v roce 2018 budeme m\u00edt p\u0159ebytek ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch rozpo\u010dt\u016f, nejni\u017e\u0161\u00ed nezam\u011bstnanost v Evrop\u011b a dal\u0161\u00ed pozitivn\u00ed ukazatele, zat\u00edmco jih Evropy se bude pot\u00e1cet v obrovsk\u00fdch probl\u00e9mech, tak bych ho pova\u017eoval za mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9ho optimistu. Kdyby mi ale z\u00e1rove\u0148 n\u011bkdo \u0159ekl, jak \u0161patn\u011b politicky a spole\u010densky bude t\u011bch uplynul\u00fdch skoro 30 let vn\u00edm\u00e1no mezi lidmi, nejenom u n\u00e1s, a \u017ee se proti konceptu liber\u00e1ln\u00ed otev\u0159en\u00e9 ekonomiky a spole\u010dnosti objev\u00ed Trumpov\u00e9, Orb\u00e1nov\u00e9 a Kaczy\u0144\u0161t\u00ed, tak bych ho pova\u017eoval za mimo\u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9ho pesimistu. Ekonomick\u00fd v\u00fdvoj pova\u017euji za nadstandardn\u011b dobr\u00fd a politikou jsem samoz\u0159ejm\u011b zklam\u00e1n. Ov\u0161em v\u00edm, \u017ee elity a establishment, politick\u00e9 strany, ale i lid\u00e9 jako j\u00e1 si za to do ur\u010dit\u00e9 m\u00edry m\u016f\u017eeme trochu sami.<\/p>\n

V listopadu 1993 se u p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti vzniku \u010cNOPK konalo sympozium Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fdch novin a Handelsblattu k \u010desko-n\u011bmeck\u00fdm hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00fdm vztah\u016fm, kde jste vystoupil i vy. Vzpom\u00edn\u00e1te si na to je\u0161t\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Druh\u00fdm \u0159e\u010dn\u00edkem byl Klaus Engelen z Handelsblattu, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b si vzpom\u00edn\u00e1m. S Handelsblattem jsem spolupracoval u\u017e p\u0159ed revoluc\u00ed. Dokonce tady je\u0161t\u011b m\u00e1m jednu fotografii z t\u00e9 akce.<\/p>\n

Co z Va\u0161eho pohledu p\u0159inesla nejv\u011bt\u0161\u00ed zahrani\u010dn\u00ed bilater\u00e1ln\u00ed komora do \u010cR?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Velk\u00e9 n\u011bmeck\u00e9 investice. Jako prezident Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 komory tro\u0161ku n\u011bkdy a\u017e z\u00e1vid\u00edm \u010cNOPK a cht\u011bl bych, abychom m\u011bli siln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u010dlenskou z\u00e1kladnu, aby \u0159ada firem, kter\u00e9 jsou v \u010cesko-n\u011bmeck\u00e9 obchodn\u00ed a pr\u016fmyslov\u00e9 komo\u0159e, byla i u n\u00e1s. Ony v\u011bt\u0161inou jsou, ale ne v\u0161echny. Z tohoto pohledu vn\u00edm\u00e1m \u010cNOPK jako velmi dob\u0159e funguj\u00edc\u00ed komoru.<\/p>\n

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\u201e\u010cesk\u00fd euroskepticismus je sp\u00ed\u0161e pravdiv\u00e1 rezervovanost\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/h5>\n

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Tehdy jste prohl\u00e1sil, \u017ee \u010cesk\u00e1 republika m\u00e1 ty nejlep\u0161\u00ed p\u0159edpoklady st\u00e1t se sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed Evropsk\u00e9ho spole\u010denstv\u00ed. Dnes je \u010dlenem EU. Pro\u010d jsou \u010ce\u0161i tak euroskepti\u010dt\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n

J\u00e1 si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee nejsme euroskepti\u010dt\u00ed. Te\u010f se to ukazuje ur\u010dit\u00fdm odporem v\u016f\u010di jenom n\u00e1znaku, \u017ee by SPD, strana Tomia Okamury, mohla b\u00fdt ve vl\u00e1d\u011b. A mohu v\u00e1s ujistit, \u017ee kdyby se to m\u011blo st\u00e1t, komora k tomu zaujme stanovisko. N\u00e1m sice nep\u0159\u00edslu\u0161\u00ed komentovat v\u00fdvoj na politick\u00e9 sc\u00e9n\u011b, ale velmi tvrd\u011b bychom se vyj\u00e1d\u0159ili ve prosp\u011bch setrv\u00e1n\u00ed \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky v EU. Nezd\u00e1 se v\u00e1m, \u017ee v n\u011bkter\u00fdch p\u0159\u00edpadech byl \u010desk\u00fd euroskepticismus zp\u011btn\u011b prok\u00e1z\u00e1n jako pravdiv\u00e1 rezervovanost v\u016f\u010di n\u011bkter\u00e9 usp\u011bchanosti z pohledu p\u0159\u00edli\u0161n\u00e9ho sebev\u011bdom\u00ed z\u00e1padoevropsk\u00fdch elit ohledn\u011b toho, jak daleko do\u0161el nejenom evropsk\u00fd integra\u010dn\u00ed proces, jak daleko do\u0161lo p\u0159ehnan\u00e9 sebev\u011bdom\u00ed ohledn\u011b toho, jak moc m\u016f\u017eeme Evropu vn\u00edmat jako jeden st\u00e1tn\u00ed celek do t\u00e9 m\u00edry, abychom tam mohli zav\u00e9st spole\u010dnou m\u011bnu? Definice st\u00e1tn\u00edho celku p\u0159ece je, \u017ee uvnit\u0159 je \u00fapln\u011b voln\u00fd pohyb, ale navenek si um\u00ed ubr\u00e1nit svoje hranice. A ani tuto z\u00e1kladn\u00ed definici neum\u00edme naplnit. Ale j\u00e1 bych cht\u011bl ujistit, \u017ee bez ohledu na n\u011bkter\u00e9 m\u00e9 pozice pat\u0159\u00edm mezi ty, kte\u0159\u00ed velmi, opakuji, velmi razantn\u011b budou br\u00e1nit jak\u00fdmkoli pokus\u016fm o n\u011bjak\u00fd czexit. To slovo je na p\u016fd\u011b Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 komory \u010cR zak\u00e1z\u00e1no.<\/p>\n

Co je podle v\u00e1s nyn\u00ed achillovou patou \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Mal\u00e1 schopnost realizovat poznatky v\u011bdy a v\u00fdzkumu v pr\u016fmyslu. Technologick\u00fd pokrok p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 mnoho \u010derp\u00e1me prost\u0159ednictv\u00edm zahrani\u010dn\u00edch investic a je tady m\u00e1lo stimulace na to, abychom ho realizovali doma. \u010cekat z\u00e1zraky v t\u00e9 st\u00e1vaj\u00edc\u00ed struktu\u0159e pr\u016fmyslu nem\u016f\u017eeme. Sp\u00ed\u0161e bychom se m\u011bli orientovat na nov\u00e9 oblasti jako digitalizace, elektronizace, software, hardware. \u010cesko je velmoc ve v\u00fdvoji sofistikovan\u00fdch po\u010d\u00edta\u010dov\u00fdch her. To je jenom jeden p\u0159\u00edklad. Je pot\u0159eba, abychom to l\u00e9pe propojili s tradi\u010dn\u00edm zpracovatelsk\u00fdm pr\u016fmyslem, aby se u n\u00e1s generovalo daleko v\u00edc hodnoty p\u0159idan\u00e9 zpracov\u00e1n\u00edm, abychom se dost\u00e1vali v\u00edce samostatn\u011b i na pro n\u00e1s dva hlavn\u00ed trhy mimo Evropu, to je \u010c\u00edna a USA.\"\"<\/strong><\/p>\n

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\u201ePro jinou \u010d\u00e1st spole\u010dnosti tak protivn\u00ed\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/h5>\n

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Dlouhodob\u011b sledujete v\u00fdvoj \u010desk\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti a EU. Jak vysp\u011bl\u00e1 je \u010desk\u00e1 ob\u010dansk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Jak vid\u00edte, nen\u00ed to tak hrozn\u00e9. Je schopn\u00e1 reagovat i na situaci, kter\u00e1 je kolem vl\u00e1dy. Ono je to t\u011b\u017ek\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka. Pro m\u011b by bylo lehk\u00e9 ztoto\u017enit se s demonstranty na V\u00e1clavsk\u00e9m n\u00e1m\u011bst\u00ed. Ale zvolen\u00ed Andreje Babi\u0161e, podobn\u011b jako zvolen\u00ed Donalda Trumpa v USA nebo n\u011bjak\u00fdch nohsled\u016f v It\u00e1lii, ve Francii, Holandsku a N\u011bmecku, odr\u00e1\u017e\u00ed p\u0159ece to, \u017ee ta na\u0161e ob\u010dansk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost p\u0159estala b\u00fdt schopna d\u00e1vat uspokojiv\u00e9 odpov\u011bdi a hlavn\u011b \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed probl\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e9 lid\u00e9 vn\u00edmaj\u00ed. Ne \u017ee by liber\u00e1ln\u00ed model otev\u0159en\u00e9ho sv\u011bta, ekonomiky nebyl pro lidi p\u0159ita\u017eliv\u00fd. Nicm\u00e9n\u011b maj\u00ed pocit, \u017ee poskytuje p\u0159\u00ednos jenom \u00fazce vymezen\u00e9mu okruhu lid\u00ed. J\u00e1 si nemysl\u00edm, \u017ee to tak stoprocentn\u011b je. Ale pokud mluv\u00edm sp\u00ed\u0161 jako politik, ne jako prezident Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 komory, tak nen\u00ed ani tak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 realita, ale to, jak je vn\u00edm\u00e1na ve spole\u010dnosti. Ob\u010dansk\u00e1 spole\u010dnost nen\u00ed tak \u0161patn\u00e1, ale sp\u00ed\u0161 si polo\u017eme ot\u00e1zku, pro\u010d jsou ti velc\u00ed reprezentanti ob\u010dansk\u00e9 spole\u010dnosti jin\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti na\u0161\u00ed spole\u010dnosti tak protivn\u00ed, pro\u010d lid\u00e9 vol\u00ed Babi\u0161e, Zemana a dal\u0161\u00ed. A j\u00e1 na tuto ot\u00e1zku nem\u00e1m ucelenou odpov\u011b\u010f.<\/p>\n

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Ing. Vladim\u00edr Dlouh\u00fd, CSc, MBA<\/h5>\n
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  • * 1953 v\u00a0Praze<\/li>\n
  • od kv\u011btna 2014 prezident Hospod\u00e1\u0159sk\u00e9 komory \u010cR<\/li>\n
  • vystudoval ekonomicko-matematick\u00e9 v\u00fdpo\u010dty na V\u0160E v\u00a0Praze, postgradu\u00e1ln\u011b matematickou statistiku a pravd\u011bpodobnost na Karlov\u011b univerzit\u011b (UK), studium na Katolick\u00e9 univerzit\u011b v\u00a0Lovani<\/li>\n
  • spoluzakladatel Prognostick\u00e9ho \u00fastavu \u010cSAV<\/li>\n
  • ministr hospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed \u010cSFR (1989-1992), ministr pr\u016fmyslu a obchodu \u010cR (1992-1997)<\/li>\n
  • od 1997 poradce investi\u010dn\u00ed banky\u00a0Goldman Sachs, poradce pro ABB (1998-2010)<\/li>\n
  • p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161\u00ed na Institutu ekonomick\u00fdch studi\u00ed\u00a0UK a p\u0159edn\u00e1\u0161el na V\u0160E<\/li>\n
  • \u010dlen n\u011bkolika mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edch think-tank\u016f a ve spr\u00e1vn\u00ed rad\u011b think tanku\u00a0Aspen Institute Prague<\/li>\n
  • \u010dlen r\u016fzn\u00fdch poradn\u00edch sbor\u016f firem v\u00a0Indii,Velk\u00e9 Brit\u00e1nii a ve Francii<\/li>\n
  • \u010dlen N\u00e1rodn\u00ed ekonomick\u00e9 rady vl\u00e1dy (NERV, 2009-2013), dozor\u010d\u00ed rady Illinois Institute of Technology (2000-2012) a Evropsk\u00e9 poradensk\u00e9 skupiny v\u00fdkonn\u00e9ho \u0159editele MMF (2010-2012)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

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    Ekonom, ministr, poradce, prezident komory, p\u016fsob\u00ed v Evrop\u011b i v z\u00e1mo\u0159\u00ed \u2013 Vladim\u00edr Dlouh\u00fd um\u00ed hodn\u011b, a chce mo\u017en\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b v\u00edce. Po sametov\u00e9 revoluci se jako ministr hospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed v\u00fdznamn\u011b pod\u00edlel na tvorb\u011b nov\u00e9 podoby \u010cesk\u00e9 republiky. 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