{"id":6854,"date":"2021-12-15T14:44:47","date_gmt":"2021-12-15T13:44:47","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/?p=6854"},"modified":"2025-02-06T14:08:45","modified_gmt":"2025-02-06T13:08:45","slug":"interview-mit-jiri-rusnok","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/cz\/interview-mit-jiri-rusnok\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor s\u00a0guvern\u00e9rem \u010cesk\u00e9 n\u00e1rodn\u00ed banky Ji\u0159\u00edm Rusnokem"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#cd7f11;font-size:28px\">&#8220;Nem\u016f\u017eeme se tv\u00e1\u0159it, \u017ee se nic ned\u011bje&#8221; <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u010cesk\u00e9 hospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed zn\u00e1 ze v\u0161ech stran. Byl premi\u00e9rem, ministrem financ\u00ed, pr\u016fmyslu a obchodu i premi\u00e9rem. Kari\u00e9ru ud\u011blal i v&nbsp;bankovnictv\u00ed \u2013 nejprve v&nbsp;soukrom\u00e9m sektoru, od \u010dervence 2016 pak v&nbsp;roli str\u00e1\u017ece \u010desk\u00e9 koruny. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9m boji proti razantn\u00ed inflaci se mnoho o\u010d\u00ed up\u00edr\u00e1 na guvern\u00e9ra \u010cesk\u00e9 n\u00e1rodn\u00ed banky (\u010cNB). Jeho recept, v\u00fdrazn\u011b zvy\u0161ovat z\u00e1kladn\u00ed \u00farokov\u00e9 sazby, nen\u00ed po chuti ka\u017ed\u00e9mu \u2013 podnik\u016fm v\u011bt\u0161inou zdra\u017e\u00ed investice. S Ji\u0159\u00edm Rusnokem jsme hovo\u0159ili o kritice jeho m\u011bnov\u00e9 politiky, zelen\u00e9 transformaci a nez\u00e1vislosti \u010cNB.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Jak se s&nbsp;p\u0159\u00edchodem covidu zm\u011bnila va\u0161e role str\u00e1\u017ece koruny? Zm\u011bnila se v\u016fbec?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nezm\u011bnil se n\u00e1\u0161 \u00fakol a mand\u00e1t \u2013 pe\u010dovat o cenovou stabilitu v&nbsp;zemi. To je d\u00e1no z\u00e1konem a to trv\u00e1. Zato se zm\u011bnil v\u00fdvoj ve spole\u010dnosti, zejm\u00e9na ekonomick\u00fd, kter\u00fd n\u00e1s zaj\u00edm\u00e1 prim\u00e1rn\u011b. Covid byl pro ekonomiku velmi specifick\u00fdm \u0161okem. M\u00e1me sice zku\u0161enosti s kriz\u00ed, kter\u00e1 vznikne ve finan\u010dn\u00edm sektoru, ale nikdo z&nbsp;n\u00e1s je\u0161t\u011b neza\u017eil, \u017ee by p\u0159i\u0161el extern\u00ed \u0161ok z prost\u0159ed\u00ed mimo ekonomiky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jak se uk\u00e1zalo, charakter krize, kterou extern\u00ed \u0161ok vyvolal, je zvl\u00e1\u0161tn\u00ed t\u00edm, \u017ee je to p\u0159ev\u00e1\u017en\u011b krize nab\u00eddkov\u00e1, tzv. supply side shock. Ta kv\u016fli jednoduch\u00e9mu ekonomick\u00e9mu z\u00e1konu nab\u00eddky a popt\u00e1vky vede k&nbsp;r\u016fstu cen. A v t\u00e9to situaci jsme se ocitli my. Na za\u010d\u00e1tku covidu to nebylo vid\u011bt, proto\u017ee tam je v\u017edy \u010dasov\u00e9 zpo\u017ed\u011bn\u00ed. Dnes u\u017e to vid\u00edme v r\u016fstu cen, k tomu se p\u0159idaly n\u011bkter\u00e9 dal\u0161\u00ed trendy. V Evrop\u011b je to tlak na dekarbonizaci, zm\u011bnu charakteru energetiky, zm\u011bnu technologi\u00ed v automobilov\u00e9m pr\u016fmyslu, kter\u00e9 tak\u00e9 p\u0159isp\u00edvaj\u00ed k cenov\u00e9mu r\u016fstu. Nejv\u00fdznamn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed na tom podle m\u011b je ekonomick\u00fd dopad a pro n\u00e1s specificky neb\u00fdval\u00fd r\u016fst cenov\u00e9 hladiny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Va\u0161e reakce byla ostr\u00e1, 4. listopadu jste kv\u016fli vysok\u00e9 inflaci zv\u00fd\u0161ili \u00farokovou sazbu o 1,25 procentn\u00edho bodu. Poj\u010fme se pod\u00edvat na to, co to vlastn\u011b znamen\u00e1. Premi\u00e9r se k va\u0161emu rozhodnut\u00ed vyj\u00e1d\u0159il ve smyslu, \u017ee zni\u010d\u00edte \u010deskou ekonomiku. \u010c\u00edm<\/strong> <strong>si tak ostrou kritiku Andreje Babi\u0161e vysv\u011btlujete?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to je takov\u00e9 vymezov\u00e1n\u00ed se, hled\u00e1n\u00ed nep\u0159\u00edtele, proto\u017ee te\u010f zrovna jin\u00fd nen\u00ed moc po ruce. Ale to nen\u00ed podstatn\u00e9, proto\u017ee jsme nez\u00e1visl\u00ed na politick\u00e9 sc\u00e9n\u011b a v tomto smyslu n\u00e1s to nijak neovliv\u0148uje. V\u00edme, co d\u011bl\u00e1me, nem\u016f\u017eeme po\u010dkat, a\u017e r\u016fst cen p\u0159ejde, s\u00e1m se usad\u00ed a bude klid. Pan premi\u00e9r vych\u00e1z\u00ed z hypot\u00e9zy, \u017ee inflace je importovan\u00e1, \u017ee je mimo na\u0161e p\u016fsoben\u00ed. To je jenom polovi\u010dn\u00ed pravda, zhruba 50 % je dom\u00e1c\u00edho p\u016fvodu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#cd7f11;font-size:22px\"><em>&#8220;Mzdy<\/em> <em>rostou rychleji ne\u017e produktivita pr\u00e1ce.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Pod\u00edvejme se na t\u011bch 50 %, kter\u00e9 se sna\u017e\u00edte ovliv\u0148ovat. Viceguvern\u00e9r \u010cNB Marek Mora ned\u00e1vno \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee k inflaci p\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1 nap\u0159\u00edklad i rozpo\u010dtov\u00e1 politika odstupuj\u00edc\u00ed vl\u00e1dy. Co jsou dal\u0161\u00ed faktory?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00edm faktorem jsou dlouhodob\u011b rychle rostouc\u00ed mzdy, kter\u00e9 rostou rychleji ne\u017e produktivita pr\u00e1ce. Je to v\u00fdsledek velmi napjat\u00e9ho trhu pr\u00e1ce, m\u00e1me nejni\u017e\u0161\u00ed nezam\u011bstnanost v&nbsp;Evrop\u011b. Mzdy rostly nomin\u00e1ln\u011b o 5-8 %, re\u00e1ln\u011b o 2-5 %. Je to tempo r\u016fstu, kter\u00e9 nikde v z\u00e1padn\u00ed Evrop\u011b nem\u00e1 obdoby. A to v situaci, kdy \u010desk\u00e1 ekonomika sice rostla, ale nijak v\u00fdrazn\u011b. Konvergence, p\u0159ibli\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed \u00farovn\u011b v\u00fdkonu \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky k nejvysp\u011blej\u0161\u00edm zem\u00edm v Evropsk\u00e9 unii, se u\u017e po\u010d\u00ednaje rokem 2018 de facto zastavila. Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b k inflaci v posledn\u00edch dvou letech p\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1 i extr\u00e9mn\u011b expanzivn\u00ed politika ve\u0159ejn\u00fdch financ\u00ed, to je nesporn\u00e9. Nen\u00ed probl\u00e9m ve velikosti \u010desk\u00e9ho ve\u0159ejn\u00e9ho dluhu, ten je st\u00e1le relativn\u011b n\u00edzk\u00fd, ale v tempu jeho zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed. Jestli\u017ee ho zvy\u0161ujeme o 7-8 % HDP ro\u010dn\u011b, je to jedno z nejrychlej\u0161\u00edch zadlu\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed v Evrop\u011b. To jist\u011b tak\u00e9 p\u0159isp\u00edv\u00e1 k proinfla\u010dn\u00edmu charakteru \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">T\u0159et\u00ed v\u00fdznamn\u00fd faktor se odr\u00e1\u017e\u00ed v na\u0161em m\u011b\u0159en\u00ed inflace. My m\u00e1me jin\u00e9 m\u011b\u0159en\u00ed ne\u017e euroz\u00f3na. Ceny nemovitost\u00ed u n\u00e1s dlouhodob\u011b rostou rychleji ne\u017e ve v\u011bt\u0161in\u011b Evropy. V na\u0161em indexu spot\u0159ebitelsk\u00fdch cen m\u00e1me takzvan\u00e9 imputovan\u00e9 n\u00e1jemn\u00e9, tedy slo\u017eku, kter\u00e1 zahrnuje n\u00e1klady na vlastnick\u00e9 bydlen\u00ed. To je v \u010cesku dominantn\u00ed zp\u016fsob bydlen\u00ed, 80 % lid\u00ed bydl\u00ed ve vlastn\u00edm. To samoz\u0159ejm\u011b zvy\u0161uje infla\u010dn\u00ed tlak.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6856\" width=\"768\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-2048x1362.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09565-272x182.jpg 272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed \u00farokov\u00fdch sazeb je pro firmy ambivalentn\u00ed krok. Jednak se zvy\u0161uj\u00ed \u00farokov\u00e9 sazby pro podnikatelsk\u00e9 \u00fav\u011bry, z\u00e1rove\u0148 firmy u\u017e \u0159adu let velmi siln\u011b poci\u0165uj\u00ed nedostatek lid\u00ed, kter\u00fd jste ozna\u010dil jako jednu z&nbsp;p\u0159\u00ed\u010din inflace. Ne\u0161lo by nap\u011bt\u00ed na trhu pr\u00e1ce ovliv\u0148ovat jinak ne\u017e zpomalen\u00edm konjunktury?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Jako \u010cNB prim\u00e1rn\u011b nechceme ovliv\u0148ovat trh pr\u00e1ce, ale na\u0161e kroky samoz\u0159ejm\u011b maj\u00ed sekund\u00e1rn\u011b dopad na re\u00e1lnou ekonomiku a trh pr\u00e1ce. Ta situace se ned\u00e1 \u0159e\u0161it monet\u00e1rn\u00edmi n\u00e1stroji, ale zvy\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00edm m\u00edry automatizace, robotizace a technologick\u00fdm pokrokem, proto\u017ee my tady lidi m\u00edt nebudeme asi ani za 10, 20 let. Naopak to bude je\u0161t\u011b hor\u0161\u00ed, proto\u017ee spole\u010dnost st\u00e1rne, m\u00e1me jedno z nejrychlej\u0161\u00edch st\u00e1rnut\u00ed v Evrop\u011b. Kr\u00e1tkodob\u011b m\u016f\u017ee b\u00fdt ur\u010dit\u00fdm \u0159e\u0161en\u00edm liber\u00e1ln\u011bj\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edstup k importu pracovn\u00ed s\u00edly ze zahrani\u010d\u00ed. To je ale pouze kr\u00e1tkodob\u00e9 a \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed. Dlouhodob\u011b je to ot\u00e1zka lep\u0161\u00ed harmonizace mezi t\u00edm, co produkuje syst\u00e9m vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed, a t\u00edm co, pot\u0159ebuje pracovn\u00ed trh. Tam jsou velk\u00e9 nedostatky. A pak investice do technologi\u00ed, \u00faspor pracovn\u00edch sil. Tato zem\u011b nem\u00e1 demograficky kapacitu na tak velk\u00fd pr\u016fmyslov\u00fd sektor, jak\u00fd tady dnes u\u017e je a asi bude je\u0161t\u011b mnoho dal\u0161\u00edch let.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Kroky Evropsk\u00e9 centr\u00e1ln\u00ed banky (ECB) a \u010cesk\u00e9 n\u00e1rodn\u00ed banky jsou \u00fapln\u011b protikladn\u00e9. Z ECB sly\u0161\u00edme, \u017ee nulov\u00e1 \u00farokov\u00e1 politika bude pokra\u010dovat mo\u017en\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b dva roky. Jak chov\u00e1n\u00ed ECB vn\u00edm\u00e1te s&nbsp;ohledem na va\u0161i nez\u00e1vislost?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">My nejsme sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed euroz\u00f3ny, m\u00e1me svoji vlastn\u00ed odpov\u011bdnost a mus\u00edme se \u0159\u00eddit na\u0161imi podm\u00ednkami. M\u00e1me infla\u010dn\u00ed c\u00edl 2 %, ale sou\u010dasn\u00e1 inflace ho n\u011bkolikan\u00e1sobn\u011b p\u0159evy\u0161uje. Jestli\u017ee vid\u00edme, \u017ee doch\u00e1z\u00ed k v\u00fdrazn\u00e9mu ohro\u017een\u00ed cenov\u00e9 stability, mus\u00edme reagovat, abychom dos\u00e1hli na horizontu m\u011bnov\u00e9 politiky na\u0161eho c\u00edle. Nem\u016f\u017eeme se tv\u00e1\u0159it, \u017ee se to ned\u011bje nebo \u017ee se to samo ztrat\u00ed, kdy\u017e v\u00edme, \u017ee je to z velk\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1sti vyvol\u00e1no dom\u00e1c\u00edmi faktory.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#cd7f11;font-size:22px\"><em>&#8220;Jestli\u017ee Evropa bude m\u00edt probl\u00e9m, budeme ho m\u00edt taky.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>A p\u0159\u00edstup ECB?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To, \u017ee ECB m\u00e1 v tuto chv\u00edli jin\u00fd p\u0159\u00edstup, se d\u00e1 pochopit. Za prv\u00e9: Zv\u00fd\u0161enou inflaci jsme m\u011bli u\u017e p\u0159ed covidem. Ne tak vysokou jako te\u010f, ale u\u017e tehdy bylo pot\u0159eba monet\u00e1rn\u00ed politiku trochu zp\u0159\u00eds\u0148ovat, co\u017e neplat\u00ed pro ECB. Ta byla mnoho let v\u00fdrazn\u011b pod c\u00edlem. Za druh\u00e9: ECB mus\u00ed nastavit monet\u00e1rn\u00ed politiku pro 19 zem\u00ed. To je velmi obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9, proto\u017ee jednotliv\u00e9 zem\u011b maj\u00ed r\u016fznou inflaci, r\u016fzn\u00e9 infla\u010dn\u00ed faktory. V tuto chv\u00edli je v n\u011bkter\u00fdch zem\u00edch v Pobalt\u00ed inflace kolem 8 %, na Slovensku je stejn\u00e1 jako u n\u00e1s, podobn\u011b je tomu v&nbsp;N\u011bmecku. Pak tady m\u00e1me \u0158ecko, It\u00e1lii, kde je inflace relativn\u011b velmi n\u00edzk\u00e1. Nastavit na to m\u011bnov\u011bpolitick\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed je samoz\u0159ejm\u011b t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9. Naj\u00edt to spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 \u010d\u00edslo je podle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru t\u00e9m\u011b\u0159 nemo\u017en\u00e9. Je tak\u00e9 pravda, \u017ee v \u017e\u00e1dn\u00e9 zemi euroz\u00f3ny nen\u00ed tak napjat\u00fd trh pr\u00e1ce jako u n\u00e1s. I kdy\u017e je to n\u011bkde podobn\u00e9, v cel\u00e9 \u0159ad\u011b zem\u00ed je situace \u00fapln\u011b jin\u00e1, t\u0159eba v&nbsp;zem\u00edch ji\u017en\u00edho k\u0159\u00eddla. ECB je podle m\u00e9ho n\u00e1zoru uv\u011bzn\u011bna v pasti fisk\u00e1ln\u00ed dominance, jak se tomu \u0159\u00edk\u00e1 odborn\u011b. To znamen\u00e1, \u017ee cel\u00e1 \u0159ada \u010dlensk\u00fdch zem\u00ed ECB je siln\u011b zadlu\u017eena a jak\u00e9koliv zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed n\u00e1klad\u016f na financov\u00e1n\u00ed jejich dluh\u016f je pro n\u011b dramatick\u00fd makroekonomick\u00fd probl\u00e9m. Mus\u00ed br\u00e1t ohled i na tuto okolnost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Ptal jsem se tak\u00e9 kv\u016fli konkurenceschopnosti \u010desk\u00fdch podnik\u016f na jednotn\u00e9m evropsk\u00e9m trhu, obzvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 v&nbsp;euroz\u00f3n\u011b. 80 % \u010desk\u00e9ho exportu sm\u011b\u0159uje do Evropsk\u00e9 unie\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ano, do jist\u00e9 m\u00edry je to pro jejich pozici nep\u0159\u00edzniv\u00e1 okolnost. Pokud maj\u00ed ve v\u011bt\u0161\u00ed m\u00ed\u0159e financov\u00e1n\u00ed postaven\u00e9 na \u00fav\u011brech od \u010desk\u00fdch bank v korun\u00e1ch, poc\u00edt\u00ed zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed n\u00e1klad\u016f. Ov\u0161em podnikatel\u00e9 dnes maj\u00ed alternativu, kterou tak\u00e9 vyu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed \u2013 podnikov\u00e9 \u00fav\u011bry v&nbsp;eurech. U exportn\u00edch podnik\u016f to d\u00e1v\u00e1 smysl i jako forma p\u0159irozen\u00e9ho hedgingu proti kurzov\u00e9mu riziku. Tam se v\u00fdrazn\u011b st\u00edr\u00e1 kr\u00e1tkodob\u00e1 nev\u00fdhoda, o kter\u00e9 mluv\u00edte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">N\u00e1m samoz\u0159ejm\u011b velmi z\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na osudu \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky. Jsme si velmi dob\u0159e v\u011bdomi toho, \u017ee bez dobr\u00e9ho fungov\u00e1n\u00ed \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky nebude ani cenov\u00e1, ani finan\u010dn\u00ed stabilita dlouhodob\u011b dosa\u017eiteln\u00e1. Cenov\u00e1 stabilita se utv\u00e1\u0159\u00ed t\u00edm, \u017ee centr\u00e1ln\u00ed banka nedovol\u00ed, aby tzv. infla\u010dn\u00ed o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed vzrostly nad \u00farove\u0148, kter\u00e1 by ji ohro\u017eovala. Dnes v\u00edme, \u017ee tlak na r\u016fst infla\u010dn\u00edch o\u010dek\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed je enormn\u00ed. A proto mus\u00edme takto razantn\u011b zas\u00e1hnout. Pokud tady nebude cenov\u00e1 stabilita, nebude fungovat ani investi\u010dn\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed, nebude zdrav\u00fdm zp\u016fsobem fungovat ani trh pr\u00e1ce a stanovov\u00e1n\u00ed mezd. To jsou v\u0161echno podm\u00ednky nutn\u00e9 k tomu, aby tady byla dlouhodob\u00e1 prosperita. Nen\u00ed to samoz\u0159ejm\u011b podm\u00ednka dosta\u010duj\u00edc\u00ed. Jde i o dal\u0161\u00ed v\u011bci, kter\u00e9 m\u00e1 ale ve sv\u00e9m portfoliu n\u011bkdo jin\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Firmy mus\u00ed digitalizovat, automatizovat, pot\u00fdkaj\u00ed se s pr\u00e1zdn\u00fdm trhem pr\u00e1ce. Dodavatelsk\u00e9 \u0159et\u011bzce funguj\u00ed \u0161patn\u011b, ceny energi\u00ed rostou. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed zelen\u00e1 transformace. Zbyde v t\u00e9hle dob\u011b podnik\u016fm na investice do budoucnosti?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V\u00fdzv\u00e1m, o kter\u00fdch mluv\u00edte, samoz\u0159ejm\u011b rozum\u00edm. Jsem p\u0159esv\u011bd\u010den, \u017ee si s&nbsp;nimi \u010desk\u00e9 podniky porad\u00ed. Net\u00fdk\u00e1 se to jen jich, ale v\u0161ech podnik\u016f v Evrop\u011b, se kter\u00fdmi si konkuruj\u00ed. Je to sout\u011b\u017e, kterou jsou zvykl\u00ed dennodenn\u011b podstupovat, vesm\u011bs \u00fasp\u011b\u0161n\u011b. Nebude to asi jednoduch\u00e9, proto\u017ee v\u00fdzev, kter\u00e9 jste vyjmenoval, se te\u010f skute\u010dn\u011b spojilo v\u00edc dohromady a doba nebude snadn\u00e1. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 p\u0159in\u00e1\u0161\u00ed p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitosti jako ka\u017ed\u00e1 krize. Nem\u00e1m tedy obavu o to, \u017ee by se s t\u00edm podniky v \u010cR nedok\u00e1zaly vypo\u0159\u00e1dat, z\u00e1klady \u010desk\u00e9 ekonomiky jsou zdrav\u00e9. My jsme z\u00e1sadn\u011b z\u00e1visl\u00ed na tom, co se bude d\u00edt v Evrop\u011b. Jsme mal\u00e1, otev\u0159en\u00e1, exportn\u011b orientovan\u00e1 pr\u016fmyslov\u011b zalo\u017een\u00e1 zem\u011b. Jestli\u017ee Evropa bude m\u00edt dlouhodob\u011b probl\u00e9my, budeme je m\u00edt taky. Nez\u00e1le\u017e\u00ed na tom, jestli jsme, nebo nejsme v euroz\u00f3n\u011b. Pokud to zvl\u00e1dne Evropa, zvl\u00e1dnou to i \u010desk\u00e9 podniky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#cd7f11;font-size:22px\"><em>&#8220;Tato zem\u011b nem\u00e1 demograficky kapacitu.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Evropsk\u00e1 politika, Green Deal, Fit for 55 \u2013 vn\u00edm\u00e1te tuto transformaci sp\u00ed\u0161e jako sou\u010d\u00e1st probl\u00e9mu, nebo jako dlouhodob\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nem\u016f\u017eeme ignorovat probl\u00e9my klimatu. \u017divotn\u00ed prost\u0159ed\u00ed mus\u00edme postupn\u011b zat\u011b\u017eovat m\u00e9n\u011b a m\u00e9n\u011b, to je jasn\u00fd imperativ. Jin\u00e1 v\u011bc je, jestli je n\u00e1\u0161 \u201eroadmap\u201c dostate\u010dn\u011b promy\u0161len\u00fd ve v\u0161ech souvislostech, jestli je co nejpoctiv\u011bji otestovan\u00fd, proto\u017ee bude vytv\u00e1\u0159et ur\u010dit\u00e9 nap\u011bt\u00ed. Za sebe \u0159\u00edk\u00e1m, \u017ee v\u0161e nen\u00ed dost promy\u0161len\u00e9. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee tato cesta je spr\u00e1vn\u00e1, ale bude muset doznat ur\u010dit\u00e9ho zp\u0159esn\u011bn\u00ed. Jeho kritika nesm\u00ed b\u00fdt ideologick\u00e9 tabu, to by byla cesta do pekel.<br>Z\u00e1rove\u0148 mus\u00edme b\u00fdt realisty, pod\u00edvejme se na mapu. Evropa je takov\u00fd poloostrov Euroasie. My sami sv\u011bt nezachr\u00e1n\u00edme. Ano, tla\u010dme na to, abychom ho zachra\u0148ovali v\u0161ichni na t\u00e9to planet\u011b. Ale sami ho nezachr\u00e1n\u00edme jen t\u00edm, \u017ee se t\u0159eba ob\u011btujeme a\u017e do \u00fapln\u00e9ho konce. To by bylo neracion\u00e1ln\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Poj\u010fme je\u0161t\u011b kr\u00e1tce k euru. Ka\u017ed\u00fd rok na ja\u0159e spole\u010dn\u011b s dal\u0161\u00edmi 15 zem\u011bmi st\u0159edn\u00ed a v\u00fdchodn\u00ed Evropy prov\u00e1d\u00edme konjunktur\u00e1ln\u00ed pr\u016fzkum. V roce 2017 cht\u011blo 48 % na\u0161ich \u010dlensk\u00fdch podnik\u016f zaveden\u00ed eura, te\u010f u\u017e je to 68 %. Euro je do zna\u010dn\u00e9 m\u00edry politick\u00fd projekt. Je pro \u010ceskou republiku \u017e\u00e1douc\u00ed ho p\u0159ijmout?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">V\u017edycky jsem \u0159\u00edkal, \u017ee dlouhodob\u011b pot\u0159ebujeme m\u00edt stejnou m\u011bnu jako N\u011bmecko. N\u011bmecko m\u00e1 v tuhle chv\u00edli euro. Probl\u00e9m je v tom, \u017ee euro jako politick\u00fd projekt, jak jste to spr\u00e1vn\u011b popsal, je projekt nedod\u011blan\u00fd. Ob\u00e1v\u00e1m se, \u017ee to jeho dod\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed bude v Evrop\u011b znamenat je\u0161t\u011b hodn\u011b utrpen\u00ed a bolesti. Anebo, pokud se to nepoda\u0159\u00ed, ten projekt nemus\u00ed b\u00fdt nav\u011bky. Pak je ot\u00e1zka, jestli m\u00e1me sp\u011bchat do nedod\u011blan\u00e9ho projektu, kdy\u017e v\u00edme, \u017ee tam bude je\u0161t\u011b n\u011bjak\u00e1 velk\u00e1 p\u0159estavba, jestli se m\u00e1me st\u011bhovat do bar\u00e1ku, kter\u00fd nen\u00ed dokon\u010den\u00fd.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nov\u00e1 vl\u00e1da chce<\/strong> <strong>podnik\u016fm umo\u017enit, aby mohli v\u00e9st \u00fa\u010detnictv\u00ed v eurech. To je asi pragmatick\u00fd krok.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u0158ada mezin\u00e1rodn\u00edch firem to d\u011bl\u00e1, vede dvoje \u00fa\u010detnictv\u00ed \u2013 v eurech a korun\u00e1ch \u2013 u\u017e dnes. To je technik\u00e1lie. N\u011bkde jsem zaslechl, \u017ee existuje n\u00e1pad, \u017ee by firmy mohly i platit dan\u011b v&nbsp;eurech. To pova\u017euji za hloupost. Nem\u016f\u017eete takto rozd\u011blovat monet\u00e1rn\u00ed syst\u00e9m v zemi, kter\u00e1 m\u00e1 vlastn\u00ed m\u011bnu. Zaj\u00edmalo by m\u011b, jak by se potom st\u00e1t zabezpe\u010doval proti kurzov\u00e9mu riziku, jestli by v&nbsp;eurech taky vypl\u00e1cel d\u00e1vky.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Byl jste ministrem, premi\u00e9rem, tedy ve st\u00e1tn\u00ed sf\u00e9\u0159e, top mana\u017eerem bankovn\u00ed sf\u00e9ry, tedy soukrom\u00e9ho sektoru. Ted jste jako guvern\u00e9r str\u00e1\u017ecem \u010desk\u00e9 koruny. Bylo pro v\u00e1s t\u011b\u017ek\u00e9 zm\u011bnit strany, kter\u00e9 \u010d\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b bojuj\u00ed i proti sob\u011b? Cen\u00edte si t\u011bch zku\u0161enost\u00ed i dneska jako guvern\u00e9r?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ur\u010dit\u011b, ka\u017ed\u00e1 zku\u0161enost v\u00e1s posiluje a d\u00e1v\u00e1 v\u00e1m ur\u010dit\u00fd nadhled. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee mi to velice pomohlo, i tady v t\u00e9to roli. Jsem \u010dlov\u011bk, kter\u00fd je zvykl\u00fd plnit svoje role. Pova\u017euji za v\u00fdhodu, kdy\u017e \u010dlov\u011bk m\u00e1 za sebou takovou \u0161ir\u0161\u00ed zku\u0161enost, proto\u017ee je potom schopen vid\u011bt i okol\u00ed toho, o \u010dem rozhoduje, mnohem detailn\u011bji, plasti\u010dt\u011bji a l\u00e9pe se v n\u011bm orientovat. Mysl\u00edm, \u017ee to pom\u00e1h\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"has-text-align-right has-text-color wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"color:#cd7f11;font-size:22px\"><em>&#8220;Euro je nedod\u011blan\u00fd projekt.&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Za rok a p\u00e1r m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f budeme m\u00edt prezidentsk\u00e9 volby. Prezident vyb\u00edr\u00e1 a jmenuje guvern\u00e9ra. To je pravidlo z doby, kdy je\u0161t\u011b nebyla p\u0159\u00edm\u00e1 volba prezidenta. Bylo dobr\u00e9, p\u0159\u00edmou volbu zav\u00e9st?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nebylo, do na\u0161eho \u00fastavn\u00edho syst\u00e9mu to nezapad\u00e1. Ten je postaven na parlamentn\u00ed demokracii a suver\u00e9nn\u00ed moci, kter\u00e1 vze\u0161la ze v\u0161eobecn\u00fdch voleb a kter\u00e1 je delegovan\u00e1 na parlament. Ten rozhoduje o v\u0161ech z\u00e1sadn\u00edch v\u011bcech, v na\u0161em syst\u00e9mu je p\u0159\u00edm\u00e1 volba prezidenta cizorod\u00fd prvek. S&nbsp;t\u00edm u\u017e ale nikdo nic neud\u011bl\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>M\u00e1te obavy o nez\u00e1vislost \u010cNB do budoucna? Kandidaturu na prezidenta zva\u017euje i v\u00e1\u0161 kritik, premi\u00e9r Babi\u0161\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Nem\u00e1m, p\u0159esto\u017ee m\u00e1me tento monarchistick\u00fd zp\u016fsob jmenov\u00e1n\u00ed \u010dlen\u016f bankovn\u00ed rady a zat\u00edm jsme m\u011bli t\u0159i velmi r\u016fzn\u00e9 prezidenty. V\u0161ichni jmenovali \u010dleny bankovn\u00ed rady a guvern\u00e9ry a nikdy nenastal \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fd z\u00e1sadn\u00ed probl\u00e9m. Toto zd\u00e1nliv\u011b absolutistick\u00e9 jmenov\u00e1n\u00ed m\u00e1 v\u00fdhodu v tom, \u017ee prezident, kter\u00fd jmenuje \u010dleny bankovn\u00ed rady, je jmenuje s\u00e1m a nem\u016f\u017ee se na nikoho vymlouvat. Nav\u00edc maj\u00ed dlouh\u00fd mand\u00e1t, jejich kroky se projev\u00ed je\u0161t\u011b b\u011bhem prezidentov\u00e1n\u00ed toho, kdo je jmenoval. Obavy nem\u00e1m.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-large is-resized\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-1024x681.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-6857\" width=\"768\" height=\"511\" srcset=\"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-1024x681.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-300x199.jpg 300w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-768x511.jpg 768w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-1536x1021.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-2048x1362.jpg 2048w, https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/A9_09733-272x182.jpg 272w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 768px) 100vw, 768px\" \/><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rozhovor se uskute\u010dnil 15.11.2021.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rozhovor: Bernhard Bauer, Christian R\u00fahmkorf<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fotos: Jarom\u00edr Zub\u00e1k<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u010cesk\u00e9 hospod\u00e1\u0159stv\u00ed zn\u00e1 ze v\u0161ech stran. 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