{"id":8654,"date":"2023-12-12T11:13:42","date_gmt":"2023-12-12T10:13:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/?p=8654"},"modified":"2025-02-06T10:15:28","modified_gmt":"2025-02-06T09:15:28","slug":"interview-zdenek-grmela-cybersecurity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/emagazin.plus\/cz\/interview-zdenek-grmela-cybersecurity\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor se Zde\u0148kem Grmelou, \u0159editelem pro oblast security T-Business v T-Mobile Czech Republic"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Mnoho kybernetick\u00fdch \u00fatok\u016f se odehr\u00e1v\u00e1 v p\u00e1tek nebo den p\u0159ed st\u00e1tn\u00edm sv\u00e1tkem<\/strong><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

N\u011bmeck\u00fd Spolkov\u00fd \u00fa\u0159ad pro informa\u010dn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnost (BSI) ozna\u010dil sou\u010dasnou situaci v oblasti kybernetick\u00e9 bezpe\u010dnosti v N\u011bmecku za znepokojivou. Mno\u017estv\u00ed digit\u00e1ln\u00edch slab\u00fdch m\u00edst v obc\u00edch, ve firm\u00e1ch a na \u00fa\u0159adech ka\u017ed\u00fdm dnem roste a oproti p\u0159edchoz\u00edmu roku se zv\u00fd\u0161ilo o 24 %. Zvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b z\u00e1va\u017en\u00e9 je \u0161\u00ed\u0159en\u00ed vyd\u011bra\u010dsk\u00e9ho ransomwaru. Podle nejnov\u011bj\u0161\u00ed zpr\u00e1vy BSI o aktu\u00e1ln\u00edm stavu 2023 by se mohla d\u00e1le zv\u00fd\u0161it hrozba, kterou p\u0159edstavuje zneu\u017eit\u00ed jazykov\u00fdch model\u016f um\u011bl\u00e9 inteligence, jako je ChatGPT. O tom v\u0161em jsme hovo\u0159ili se Zde\u0148kem Grmelou, \u0159editelem pro oblast security T-Business ve spole\u010dnosti T-Mobile Czech Republic, kter\u00fd s kybernetickou kriminalitou v byznysu bojuje v prvn\u00ed linii. Kdy\u017e v\u0161em ostatn\u00edm v p\u00e1tek odpoledne za\u010d\u00edn\u00e1 v\u00edkend, v jeho odd\u011blen\u00ed je sp\u00ed\u0161e klid p\u0159ed bou\u0159\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Podle n\u011bmeck\u00e9 ministryn\u011b vnitra Nancy Faeserov\u00e9 je situace v kybernetick\u00e9m prostoru dynamick\u00e1 a m\u016f\u017ee kdykoli eskalovat. Zde\u0148ku, popsal byste situaci v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice podobn\u011b?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ano, ur\u010dit\u011b. Situace je extr\u00e9mn\u011b dynamick\u00e1. Nikdy nev\u00edte, co se stane v p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch t\u00fddnech nebo m\u011bs\u00edc\u00edch. Kybernetick\u00e1 bezpe\u010dnost mus\u00ed m\u00edt v p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch letech tu nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed prioritu.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eKybernetick\u00e1 bezpe\u010dnost mus\u00ed m\u00edt v p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u00edch letech tu nejvy\u0161\u0161\u00ed prioritu.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Pokud se pod\u00edv\u00e1me na trendy v \u010cesk\u00e9 republice, jak se v sou\u010dasnosti kyberkriminalita vyv\u00edj\u00ed?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Podobn\u011b jako v ostatnich zem\u00edch sv\u011bta. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b jsme sv\u011bdky rostouc\u00edho po\u010dtu \u00fatok\u016f ransomwaru a DDoS. \u00datok DDoS je zam\u011b\u0159en na va\u0161i infrastrukturu s c\u00edlem ochromit ji. St\u00e1le v\u00edce \u00fatok\u016f v\u0161ak c\u00edl\u00ed tak\u00e9 na zam\u011bstnance a koncov\u00e9 body.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je digitalizace, pro firmy tak d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1 v\u011bc, v souvislosti s kyberkriminalitou sp\u00ed\u0161e p\u0159\u00edle\u017eitost\u00ed, nebo sp\u00ed\u0161e rizikem?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Digitalizace je nutnost\u00ed! Je to cesta do budoucnosti. Mus\u00edme v\u0161ak zajistit, aby ka\u017ed\u00fd projekt digitalizace byl doprov\u00e1zen odpov\u00eddaj\u00edc\u00ed kybernetickou bezpe\u010dnost\u00ed, co\u017e v minulosti ne v\u017edy platilo. Pro \u0159adu firem, kdy\u017e p\u0159ech\u00e1zely na digitalizaci, nebyla kybernetick\u00e1 bezpe\u010dnost prioritou. A nyn\u00ed maj\u00ed v t\u00e9to oblasti p\u0159ed sebou kus pr\u00e1ce.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

S digitalizac\u00ed p\u0159ich\u00e1z\u00ed do hry um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence. Jak se v\u00e1m da\u0159\u00ed sladit hrozby a p\u0159\u00ednosy um\u011bl\u00e9 inteligence?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Hodn\u011b se o tom diskutuje. Pokud \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed um\u011blou inteligenci, pak ji samoz\u0159ejm\u011b mus\u00edme pou\u017e\u00edvat i my. Chceme-li se chr\u00e1nit, mus\u00edme pochopiteln\u011b trendy i v\u00fdvoj v oblasti hrozeb monitorovat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eTrv\u00e1 to jen n\u011bkolik sekund.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Um\u011bl\u00e1 inteligence u\u017e hraje v\u00fdznamnou roli, pokud jde o vstupn\u00ed br\u00e1nu pro kybernetick\u00e9 \u00fatoky. Co se m\u016f\u017ee st\u00e1t firm\u00e1m, jak se do nich hacke\u0159i dostanou?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b jsou vstupn\u00ed br\u00e1nou p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm zam\u011bstnanci, koncov\u00e9 body a infrastruktura. Na \u00favod jste zm\u00ednil slab\u00e1 m\u00edsta. Nedovedete si p\u0159edstavit, kolik firem st\u00e1le m\u00e1 zraniteln\u00e9 s\u00edt\u011b. Skrz zranitelnou infrastrukturu je skute\u010dn\u011b velmi snadn\u00e9 z\u00edskat p\u0159\u00edstup. Trv\u00e1 to jen n\u011bkolik sekund. P\u0159esto\u017ee m\u00e1me rok 2023, st\u00e1le n\u00e1m chyb\u00ed spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 modely softwarov\u00e9ho a hardwarov\u00e9ho patchov\u00e1n\u00ed (z\u00e1platov\u00e1n\u00ed; aktualizace softwaru a update hardwarov\u00e9ho firmwaru, pozn. redakce). A nesm\u00edme zapom\u00ednat na lidi, kte\u0159\u00ed za t\u00edm stoj\u00ed. Mus\u00edme db\u00e1t na \u0159\u00e1dn\u00e9 \u0161kolen\u00ed zam\u011bstnanc\u016f, proto\u017ee ti jsou jedn\u00edm z hlavn\u00edch vstupn\u00edch bod\u016f do syst\u00e9mu. Ochrana je v\u017edy kombinac\u00ed technologie a \u0161kolen\u00ed zam\u011bstnanc\u016f. Z\u00e1rove\u0148 je pot\u0159eba nastavit vhodn\u00fd nouzov\u00fd proces.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jako odborn\u00edk na kybernetickou bezpe\u010dnost hodn\u011b pracujete s lidmi a nejste tedy nerd\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u0159esn\u011b tak, moment\u00e1ln\u011b se v\u011bnuji sp\u00ed\u0161e lidem ne\u017e technologi\u00edm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eKombinace n\u011bkolika drobn\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e1 se zpo\u010d\u00e1tku zd\u00e1la nemo\u017en\u00e1.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak se hacke\u0159i dostanou dovnit\u0159? Phishingov\u00e9 e-maily, jin\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edklady, zkuste b\u00fdt pros\u00edm konkr\u00e9tn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Velmi \u010dasto p\u0159ich\u00e1zej\u00ed v d\u016fsledku \u0159ady ud\u00e1lost\u00ed. Mnoho lid\u00ed si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee k vy\u0159e\u0161en\u00ed v\u0161ech probl\u00e9m\u016f sta\u010d\u00ed syst\u00e9m patchovat nebo v\u00edce investovat do kybernetick\u00e9 bezpe\u010dnosti. P\u0159i ned\u00e1vn\u00fdch \u00fatoc\u00edch na na\u0161e z\u00e1kazn\u00edky a tak\u00e9 na n\u00e1s samotn\u00e9 jsme v\u0161ak vid\u011bli, \u017ee \u00fatok je st\u00e1le \u010dast\u011bji kombinace n\u011bkolika drobn\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f, kter\u00e1 se zpo\u010d\u00e1tku zd\u00e1la v podstat\u011b nemo\u017en\u00e1. \u010casto to m\u016f\u017ee ve firm\u00e1ch za\u010d\u00edt drobn\u00fdmi probl\u00e9my v procesech, p\u0159i \u0161kolen\u00ed zam\u011bstnanc\u016f nebo dokonce v technologi\u00edch. Kdy\u017e n\u011bkomu vysv\u011btluji, co by se mohlo st\u00e1t, v\u0161ichni \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed: Ne, to je p\u0159\u00edli\u0161 nepravd\u011bpodobn\u00e9, moc n\u00e1s stra\u0161\u00edte.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A kombinaci slab\u00fdch m\u00edst hacke\u0159i tak\u00e9 najdou pomoc\u00ed um\u011bl\u00e9 inteligence? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je to jedna z mo\u017enost\u00ed, ale maj\u00ed i dal\u0161\u00ed n\u00e1stroje. Rozes\u00edlaj\u00ed firm\u00e1m tis\u00edcovky phishingov\u00fdch e-mail\u016f, a to st\u00e1le dokola. I kdy\u017e na e-mail klikne a \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk\u016fm poskytne p\u0159ihla\u0161ovac\u00ed \u00fadaje jen p\u016fl procenta lid\u00ed, probl\u00e9m je na sv\u011bt\u011b. <\/p>\n\n\n

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\u201eNedovedete si p\u0159edstavit , kolik firem st\u00e1le m\u00e1 zraniteln\u00e9 s\u00edt\u011b.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Co n\u00e1m m\u016f\u017eete \u0159\u00edct o tom, z jak\u00fdch region\u016f \u00fatoky v sou\u010dasnosti p\u0159ich\u00e1zej\u00ed a kdo je pachatelem? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Na tohle se m\u011b lidi opakovan\u011b ptaj\u00ed, kdy\u017e nav\u0161t\u00edv\u00ed na\u0161e bezpe\u010dnostn\u00ed centrum. V\u011bt\u0161ina \u00fatok\u016f poch\u00e1z\u00ed z rozvinut\u00fdch pr\u016fmyslov\u00fdch zem\u00ed, z USA, Japonska, N\u011bmecka, proto\u017ee \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci zneu\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed existuj\u00edc\u00ed a dob\u0159e rozvinutou infrastrukturu t\u011bchto zem\u00ed. Analyzujeme profily \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk\u016f a sna\u017e\u00edme se je p\u0159i\u0159adit k ur\u010dit\u00e9 skupin\u011b, k ur\u010dit\u00e9 zemi. Ale ne v\u017edy si m\u016f\u017eeme b\u00fdt stoprocentn\u011b jisti. \u010casto to jsou klasick\u00e9 podez\u0159el\u00e9 zem\u011b, u kter\u00fdch n\u00e1m pak z\u00e1kazn\u00edci \u0159\u00edkaj\u00ed: Hele, prost\u011b je zablokujte, tam nepot\u0159ebujeme p\u0159\u00edstup\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nap\u0159\u00edklad \u010c\u00edna a Rusko.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u0159esn\u011b tak. Ale \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci nemus\u00ed nutn\u011b pou\u017e\u00edvat vlastn\u00ed infrastrukturu. N\u011bkdy jim k \u00fatoku sta\u010d\u00ed \u0159ada zraniteln\u00fdch server\u016f v jin\u00fdch zem\u00edch. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Existuj\u00ed konkr\u00e9tn\u00ed firmy, odv\u011btv\u00ed nebo oblasti podnik\u00e1n\u00ed, kter\u00e9 jsou obzvl\u00e1\u0161t\u011b ohro\u017eeny?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Obecn\u011b v\u017edy hovo\u0159\u00edme o na\u0161\u00ed kritick\u00e9 infrastruktu\u0159e. T-Mobile jako oper\u00e1tor, ale i n\u011bkter\u00e9 dal\u0161\u00ed firmy, jsme sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed kritick\u00e9 infrastruktury a mus\u00edme se chr\u00e1nit, proto\u017ee rozhodn\u011b jsme obl\u00edben\u00fdm c\u00edlem \u00fatok\u016f. To, na koho se \u00fato\u010d\u00ed, velmi \u010dasto souvis\u00ed s geopolitickou situac\u00ed. Ale n\u011bkdy \u00fato\u010dn\u00edky l\u00e1k\u00e1 i finan\u010dn\u00ed zisk. Skute\u010dn\u00fd finan\u010dn\u00ed dopad \u00fatoku si firmy bohu\u017eel \u010dasto uv\u011bdom\u00ed a\u017e dodate\u010dn\u011b. A to je tak\u00e9 d\u016fvod, pro\u010d zpo\u010d\u00e1tku necht\u011bj\u00ed investovat do kybernetick\u00e9 bezpe\u010dnosti. Nejd\u0159\u00edv se nec\u00edt\u00ed ohro\u017eeny.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Poj\u010fme te\u010f k va\u0161im vlastn\u00edm zku\u0161enostem v T-Mobile: K \u010demu u v\u00e1s ve firm\u011b ji\u017e do\u0161lo? Co jste u\u017e za\u017eili?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Neust\u00e1le \u010del\u00edme r\u016fzn\u00fdm typ\u016fm \u00fatok\u016f. Obecn\u011b zaznamen\u00e1v\u00e1me prudk\u00fd n\u00e1r\u016fst \u00fatok\u016f DDoS na na\u0161i infrastrukturu i na\u0161e z\u00e1kazn\u00edky, p\u0159edev\u0161\u00edm na banky. Tyto \u00fatoky obvykle trvaj\u00ed minim\u00e1ln\u011b 24 hodin. A v\u017edy se jednalo o kombinaci drobn\u00fdch probl\u00e9m\u016f v infrastruktu\u0159e. Tak\u00e9 jsme si mysleli, \u017ee se to nikdy nem\u016f\u017ee st\u00e1t, a p\u0159esto se to stalo. Museli jsme tedy p\u0159izp\u016fsobit anal\u00fdzu probl\u00e9m\u016f a ochranu. Pokud nedojde k \u017e\u00e1dn\u00fdm v\u011bt\u0161\u00edm \u0161kod\u00e1m, je to dobr\u00fd zp\u016fsob, jak zjistit, kde jsou va\u0161e slab\u00e1 m\u00edsta a co zlep\u0161it.<\/p>\n\n\n

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My pr\u00e1v\u011b prov\u00e1d\u00edme anonymn\u00ed pr\u016fzkum, ve kter\u00e9m se firem pt\u00e1me, zda byly n\u011bkdy napadeny hackery a jak\u00e9 s t\u00edm maj\u00ed zku\u0161enosti. Up\u0159\u00edmn\u011b \u0159e\u010deno, moc odpov\u011bd\u00ed jsme nedostali. Nikdo o tom nechce mluvit. Jak by m\u011bla vypadat \u201eprvn\u00ed pomoc\u201d, kdy\u017e u\u017e do\u0161lo k \u00fatoku, co rychle pom\u016f\u017ee?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nikdo nechce mluvit o tom, \u017ee byl hacknut. \u010c\u00e1ste\u010dn\u011b je to ot\u00e1zka reputace a strach z toho, co se stane p\u0159\u00ed\u0161t\u011b. Jsme sv\u011bdky mnoha \u00fatok\u016f na na\u0161e z\u00e1kazn\u00edky a partnery, ale oni n\u00e1m o tom ani ne\u0159eknou. \u00datok mus\u00edme odhalit sami. To se d\u011bje ka\u017ed\u00fd den. A co d\u011blat v p\u0159\u00edpad\u011b \u00fatoku? Velmi \u010dasto doch\u00e1z\u00ed k velk\u00e9 panice. V\u017edy je dobr\u00e9 m\u00edt intern\u00ed t\u00fdm, kter\u00fd se incidentem zab\u00fdv\u00e1 a organizuje komunikaci s veden\u00edm a partnery a pravideln\u011b se v tom \u0161kol\u00ed. Velmi u\u017eite\u010dn\u00e9 je m\u00edt dop\u0159edu zaveden\u00e9 n\u011bjak\u00e9 nouzov\u00e9 procesy pro p\u0159\u00edpad kybernetick\u00e9ho \u00fatoku, ty pr\u016fb\u011b\u017en\u011b testovat, aktualizovat. Je velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 u\u010dinit kritick\u00e1 rozhodnut\u00ed v\u010das. To v\u00e1s m\u016f\u017ee dost \u010dasto zachr\u00e1nit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak m\u00e1 firma postupovat? Ml\u010det a platit, nebo zve\u0159ejnit a bojovat?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Obecn\u011b se nedoporu\u010duje, aby firma platila, proto\u017ee to \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci cht\u011bj\u00ed a jen je motivujete, aby to d\u011blali znovu a znovu. Velmi \u010dasto jsou tyto informace a \u00fadaje p\u0159ed\u00e1v\u00e1ny v r\u00e1mci va\u0161\u00ed vlastn\u00ed s\u00edt\u011b, ale ne v\u017edy na ve\u0159ejnost. Je tak\u00e9 velmi obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9 vysv\u011btlit ve\u0159ejnosti, co se skute\u010dn\u011b stalo. N\u011bkdy to vypad\u00e1 jako kybernetick\u00fd \u00fatok, ale je to jen provozn\u00ed probl\u00e9m. Nebo naopak. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201e\u00dato\u010dn\u00edk se v\u017edy sna\u017e\u00ed dostat ob\u011b\u0165 do \u010dasov\u00e9 t\u00edsn\u011b.\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u010casto jsou to pr\u00e1v\u011b zam\u011bstnanci, kdo \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk\u016fm umo\u017en\u00ed proniknout do syst\u00e9mu. Jak je vy\u0161kolit a jak ve firm\u011b vytvo\u0159it spr\u00e1vn\u00e9 pov\u011bdom\u00ed o probl\u00e9mu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ano, to je skute\u010dn\u011b nekone\u010dn\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka. P\u0159i v\u0161ech technik\u00e1ch, kter\u00e9 \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci v sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed, je pom\u011brn\u011b obt\u00ed\u017en\u00e9 rozpoznat, zda se skute\u010dn\u011b jedn\u00e1 o phishingov\u00fd e-mail, nebo ne. Mus\u00edte tedy \u0161kolit zam\u011bstnance a pou\u017e\u00edvat technologie, kter\u00e9 jim pomohou chr\u00e1nit se a rozpoznat potenci\u00e1ln\u00ed probl\u00e9m. Je to o kritick\u00e9m my\u0161len\u00ed: M\u00e1m tuto informaci sd\u00edlet, nebo ne? Je to tedy kombinace oboj\u00edho. Osobn\u011b si mysl\u00edm, \u017ee je dobr\u00e9 \u0161kolit zam\u011bstnance interaktivn\u011bj\u0161\u00edm zp\u016fsobem, aby pochopili, co d\u011blaj\u00ed, co ud\u011blali, co by m\u011bli ud\u011blat a jak\u00e9 to m\u00e1 d\u016fsledky. \u00dato\u010dn\u00edk se v\u017edy sna\u017e\u00ed dostat ob\u011b\u0165 do \u010dasov\u00e9 t\u00edsn\u011b: Hele, mus\u00ed\u0161 kliknout sem, mus\u00ed\u0161 mi d\u00e1t tyhle informace, aby se ti nezablokoval \u00fa\u010det atd. Proto mus\u00edte b\u00fdt v\u017edy opatrn\u00ed, kdy\u017e je na v\u00e1s vyv\u00edjen n\u00e1tlak. A to se net\u00fdk\u00e1 jen obchodn\u00edch, ale tak\u00e9 osobn\u00edch z\u00e1le\u017eitost\u00ed. Pokud na v\u00e1s tedy n\u011bkdo vyv\u00edj\u00ed tlak po telefonu nebo e-mailem, textovou zpr\u00e1vou nebo jinak, dob\u0159e si rozmyslete, zda to m\u00e1te ud\u011blat, nebo ne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je tedy velmi d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9 nenechat na sebe vyvinout tlak.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

P\u0159esn\u011b tak. Mnoho \u00fatok\u016f se odehr\u00e1v\u00e1 v p\u00e1tek nebo den p\u0159ed st\u00e1tn\u00edm sv\u00e1tkem. V t\u00e9 dob\u011b jsou lid\u00e9 pod tlakem: cht\u011bj\u00ed opustit kancel\u00e1\u0159, m\u00edt uklizen\u00fd st\u016fl a j\u00edt dom\u016f a cht\u011bj\u00ed v\u0161echno rychle vy\u0159e\u0161it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Tak\u017ee p\u00e1tek pro v\u00e1s nen\u00ed \u00fapln\u011b dobr\u00fd den?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ne, jen \u010dek\u00e1me na to, co se stane odpoledne.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nab\u00edz\u00edte workshopy pro zv\u00fd\u0161en\u00ed informovanosti partnersk\u00fdch firem? <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Workshop je za\u010d\u00e1tkem ka\u017ed\u00e9 spolupr\u00e1ce. Hovo\u0159\u00edme s klienty o tom, co pot\u0159ebuj\u00ed chr\u00e1nit, co jim m\u016f\u017eeme nab\u00eddnout, a jak u\u017e jsem \u0159\u00edkal, mus\u00ed pochopit, jak\u00e9 to m\u016f\u017ee m\u00edt finan\u010dn\u00ed d\u016fsledky. Nakonec v\u017edy jde o z\u00e1chranu byznysu. A to znamen\u00e1 naj\u00edt spr\u00e1vnou rovnov\u00e1hu mezi zabezpe\u010den\u00edm a snadn\u00fdm pou\u017e\u00edv\u00e1n\u00edm. Je to v\u017edycky v\u00fdzva, ale je to cesta, kterou jsme si vybrali.<\/p>\n\n\n

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Kdo mus\u00ed ve firm\u011b d\u011blat dom\u00e1c\u00ed \u00fakoly? Gener\u00e1ln\u00ed \u0159editel, nebo IT expert? Objevuj\u00ed se n\u00e1vrhy, \u017ee by ka\u017ed\u00e1 firma m\u011bla m\u00edt sv\u00e9ho pracovn\u00edka pro bezpe\u010dnost podnikov\u00fdch informac\u00ed, BISO. Pomohlo by to?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Nejsem p\u0159\u00edznivcem toho, aby se um\u011ble vytvo\u0159ila nov\u00e1 funkce. Za kybernetickou bezpe\u010dnost je v z\u00e1sad\u011b ve firm\u00e1ch zodpov\u011bdn\u00fd vrcholov\u00fd management. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

A jsou si toho vrcholov\u00ed mana\u017ee\u0159i dostate\u010dn\u011b v\u011bdomi?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Za\u010d\u00ednaj\u00ed si to uv\u011bdomovat. V\u0161\u00edm\u00e1me si toho, kdy\u017e s jejich managementem mluv\u00edme. Nakonec jsou to oni, kdo mus\u00ed rozhodnout a stanovit rozpo\u010det na kybernetickou bezpe\u010dnost. Lid\u00e9 z IT obvykle odv\u00e1d\u011bj\u00ed velmi dobrou pr\u00e1ci, ale \u010dasto nerozum\u011bj\u00ed cel\u00e9 firm\u011b v jej\u00ed komplexnosti. I na to je dobr\u00e9 myslet.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eB\u00fdt ochoten sd\u00edlet informace\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Na jedn\u00e9 stran\u011b firmy necht\u011bj\u00ed o \u00fatoc\u00edch mluvit, ale na druh\u00e9 stran\u011b je v\u00fdm\u011bna zku\u0161enost\u00ed nesm\u00edrn\u011b d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e1. Je to tak?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ur\u010dit\u011b ano, n\u00e1\u0161 T-Mobile je sou\u010d\u00e1st\u00ed Deutsche Telekom a m\u00e1me pom\u011brn\u011b dobr\u00fd model sd\u00edlen\u00ed informac\u00ed v r\u00e1mci cel\u00e9 skupiny a tak\u00e9 s ostatn\u00edmi n\u011bmeck\u00fdmi firmami. M\u00e1me platformy, kde sd\u00edl\u00edme informace o \u00fatoc\u00edch. Proto\u017ee co se dnes stane n\u00e1m, to se druh\u00fd den m\u016f\u017ee st\u00e1t n\u011bkomu jin\u00e9mu. V\u0161echny firmy v tomto modelu mus\u00ed b\u00fdt ochotn\u00e9 sd\u00edlet informace. To je nesm\u00edrn\u011b d\u016fle\u017eit\u00e9. Tyto znalosti mohou pomoci i z\u00e1kazn\u00edk\u016fm, proto\u017ee ti velmi \u010dasto pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00ed st\u00e1le stejn\u00e9 vzory. Maj\u00ed zku\u0161enosti pouze z vlastn\u00ed firmy, zat\u00edmco my jsme se pod\u00edvali hned do n\u011bkolika firem a m\u00e1me srovn\u00e1n\u00ed, m\u016f\u017eeme vylep\u0161ovat. To n\u00e1m pom\u00e1h\u00e1.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

A co byste na z\u00e1v\u011br poradil firm\u00e1m, jak se maj\u00ed p\u0159ipravit na mo\u017en\u00e9 kybernetick\u00e9 \u00fatoky?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Kybernetick\u00e9 \u00fatoky tady jsou a v\u017edycky budou. Proto se sna\u017ete b\u00fdt p\u0159ipraveni; sna\u017ete se m\u00edt partnera, kter\u00fd v\u00e1m m\u016f\u017ee pomoci; sna\u017ete se m\u00edt zaveden\u00e9 z\u00e1kladn\u00ed kybernetick\u00e9 zabezpe\u010den\u00ed, proto\u017ee je to jen ot\u00e1zka \u010dasu. M\u016f\u017ee to zas\u00e1hnout kohokoli. Jak jste \u0159\u00edkal, mno\u017estv\u00ed slab\u00fdch m\u00edst, kter\u00e1 jsou ka\u017ed\u00fd den objevena, je ohromuj\u00edc\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Je pro firmu bezpe\u010dn\u011bj\u0161\u00ed m\u00edt vlastn\u00ed server, nebo pracovat v cloudu?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Ano, tuhle ot\u00e1zku dost\u00e1v\u00e1m velmi \u010dasto. Existuje spoustu d\u016fvod\u016f, pro\u010d se firmy boj\u00ed p\u0159ej\u00edt na cloudov\u00e9 \u0159e\u0161en\u00ed. Co je lep\u0161\u00ed: m\u00edt \u0159\u00e1dn\u011b z\u00e1platovan\u00fd, udr\u017eovan\u00fd a monitorovan\u00fd server v cloudu, nebo m\u00edt vlastn\u00ed server n\u011bkde ve sklep\u011b, kter\u00fd nen\u00ed n\u011bkolik t\u00fddn\u016f \u010di m\u011bs\u00edc\u016f z\u00e1platovan\u00fd a \u0159\u00e1dn\u011b udr\u017eovan\u00fd a monitorovan\u00fd?<\/p>\n\n\n\n

\u201eHele, moc nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lejte!\u201c<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Mnoho mal\u00fdch a st\u0159edn\u00edch podnik\u016f nem\u00e1 dostate\u010dn\u00e9 kapacity, pokud jde o technologie, digitalizaci, pracovn\u00ed s\u00edly a odborn\u00edky. A mnoh\u00e9 si mysl\u00ed, \u017ee kybernetick\u00e1 bezpe\u010dnost je tak slo\u017eit\u00e1 a komplikovan\u00e1 v\u011bc, \u017ee ani nev\u011bd\u00ed, kde za\u010d\u00edt. V sou\u010dasn\u00e9 dob\u011b se tyto podniky st\u00e1le \u010dast\u011bji st\u00e1vaj\u00ed st\u0159edem z\u00e1jmu kybernetick\u00fdch \u00fato\u010dn\u00edk\u016f. Co byste jim poradil?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

V\u017edycky jim \u0159\u00edk\u00e1me: Hele, moc nep\u0159em\u00fd\u0161lejte! Samoz\u0159ejm\u011b m\u016f\u017eete vybudovat 99% ochranu, ale budete o n\u00ed p\u0159em\u00fd\u0161let jeden, dva nebo t\u0159i roky a mezit\u00edm dojde k \u00fatoku. Proto jim \u010dasto rad\u00edme, aby nejprve implementovali tzv. security basics. <\/p>\n\n\n\n

Jak\u00e9 jsou t\u0159i nejd\u016fle\u017eit\u011bj\u0161\u00ed \u201ebasics\u201c?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Z\u00e1platov\u00e1n\u00ed slab\u00fdch m\u00edst, kter\u00e1 se objev\u00ed ka\u017ed\u00fd den, informov\u00e1n\u00ed a \u0161kolen\u00ed lid\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed za nimi stoj\u00ed, a z\u00e1kladn\u00ed ochrana koncov\u00fdch bod\u016f, p\u0159es kter\u00e9 \u010dasto \u00fato\u010dn\u00edci do infrastruktury pronikaj\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Rozhovor: Christian R\u00fchmkorf
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N\u011bmeck\u00fd Spolkov\u00fd \u00fa\u0159ad pro informa\u010dn\u00ed bezpe\u010dnost (BSI) ozna\u010dil sou\u010dasnou situaci v oblasti kybernetick\u00e9 bezpe\u010dnosti v N\u011bmecku za znepokojivou. Mno\u017estv\u00ed digit\u00e1ln\u00edch slab\u00fdch m\u00edst v obc\u00edch, ve firm\u00e1ch a na \u00fa\u0159adech ka\u017ed\u00fdm dnem roste a oproti p\u0159edchoz\u00edmu roku se zv\u00fd\u0161ilo o 24 %. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":8655,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"_uf_show_specific_survey":0,"_uf_disable_surveys":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[8,294],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-8654","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-interviewrozhovor","category-xmas-hack-attack"],"translation":{"provider":"WPGlobus","version":"3.0.0","language":"cz","enabled_languages":["de","cz"],"languages":{"de":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true},"cz":{"title":true,"content":true,"excerpt":true}}},"yoast_head":"\nRozhovor se Zde\u0148kem Grmelou, \u0159editelem pro oblast security T-Business v T-Mobile Czech Republic - 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